Curse

eom · Nov 21, 2005, 01:46 PM // 13:46

For each dead ally, you gain 10 seconds of health regeneration +3-6, and your attack speed increases by 33%.

anybody know how this works in practice?
specifically, I was thinking of using it w/my necro secondary.
does it count up the dead bodies on the ground, or what?

unienaule · Nov 21, 2005, 01:54 PM // 13:54

Yes, but they have to be allies. Allies are party members/pets.

Shimus DarkRaven · Nov 21, 2005, 04:07 PM // 16:07

The person above me is right, they have be allies, only then do you get the advantage of the skill, imho, it's not worth the slot, just bring a +8 healing breeze/healing hands on a W/Mo, lol =)

--The Shim

mortalis doleo · Nov 21, 2005, 04:44 PM // 16:44

two posts and still, nobody mentions the current uber-build FotM, that nobody can stop???
what's wrong? IWAY is the most powerfull skill a warrior can have!!!!!

for a moment of seriouseness...
IWAY has an entire build based on it, which i dont wanna elaborate on...
if you do wish to use IWAY as a warrior, it should mainly be used in a big battle (hoh or gvg) for it to be useful.
i would even suggest getting 6 W/R with pets, and letting your pets die, making you have a very fast attack rate. then, since you are attacking so fast, throw an order necro in, to increas the dps. the last spot should be a tainted necro, to make the entire enemy team suffer from desease, while your team is immune to that.
oops...

Shimus DarkRaven · Nov 21, 2005, 04:47 PM // 16:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by mortalis doleo

two posts and still, nobody mentions the current uber-build FotM, that nobody can stop???
what's wrong? IWAY is the most powerfull skill a warrior can have!!!!!

for a moment of seriouseness...
IWAY has an entire build based on it, which i dont wanna elaborate on...
if you do wish to use IWAY as a warrior, it should mainly be used in a big battle (hoh or gvg) for it to be useful.
i would even suggest getting 6 W/R with pets, and letting your pets die, making you have a very fast attack rate. then, since you are attacking so fast, throw an order necro in, to increas the dps. the last spot should be a tainted necro, to make the entire enemy team suffer from desease, while your team is immune to that.
oops...

He wasn't referring to builds, that's why we didn't mention it.

--The Shim

eom · Nov 21, 2005, 07:46 PM // 19:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shimus DarkRaven

The person above me is right, they have be allies, only then do you get the advantage of the skill, imho, it's not worth the slot, j
--The Shim

psshh......you should see my party in action.....I'd be superman w/that skill.

I play pve w/a e/m friend of mine on lan and we take a monk henchie w/us.
the charr rangers shoot over the top of me, killing the monk, and the fighters rush past me to kill my friend.
I had to put the rez sig back in my lineup.

Shimus DarkRaven · Nov 21, 2005, 08:03 PM // 20:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by eom

psshh......you should see my party in action.....I'd be superman w/that skill.

I play pve w/a e/m friend of mine on lan and we take a monk henchie w/us.
the charr rangers shoot over the top of me, killing the monk, and the fighters rush past me to kill my friend.
I had to put the rez sig back in my lineup.

It was my opinion for PVE not to use it, but if it's your incentive, I won't rip on it. I just prefer other skills in the slot it could potentially soak up, is all. Now PVP..totally different story.

--The Shim

eom · Nov 21, 2005, 08:11 PM // 20:11

I haven't even found it yet.
I was mostly hoping I could count my minions --- if it's just my softshell party, I don't have room for it.

mortalis doleo · Nov 21, 2005, 08:15 PM // 20:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by eom

psshh......you should see my party in action.....I'd be superman w/that skill.

I play pve w/a e/m friend of mine on lan and we take a monk henchie w/us.
the charr rangers shoot over the top of me, killing the monk, and the fighters rush past me to kill my friend.
I had to put the rez sig back in my lineup.

you should have res sig in your line-up always... especially as a warrior...

but nvm, it doesn't effect minions (i wish)

Zakarr · Nov 21, 2005, 08:34 PM // 20:34

Me/W or W/Me with Illusionary Weaponry + IWAY with lots of allied dead pets around =

Although you have to do melee attacks.

Shimus DarkRaven · Nov 21, 2005, 08:46 PM // 20:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by mortalis doleo

you should have res sig in your line-up always... especially as a warrior...

but nvm, it doesn't effect minions (i wish)

Assuming you meant minions and IWAY: I wish, but alas, they fall in particles when the die <regular> But if they did, imagine..wow...overpowered! =)

--The Shim

eom · Nov 21, 2005, 08:53 PM // 20:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zakarr

Me/W or W/Me with Illusionary Weaponry + IWAY with lots of allied dead pets around =

Although you have to do melee attacks.

that's what I need to do --- I need to ally myself w/some pets.
or maybe more wimpy henchies.

so, could I just leave them dead on the ground for the whole mission and keep casting this?
dead guys don't split gold or exp, do they?

Shimus DarkRaven · Nov 21, 2005, 11:26 PM // 23:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by eom

that's what I need to do --- I need to ally myself w/some pets.
or maybe more wimpy henchies.

so, could I just leave them dead on the ground for the whole mission and keep casting this?
dead guys don't split gold or exp, do they?

No, you have to be "In range" of the dead people for it to work. And if they're still in your party, doesn't matter everything applies <IE: Division of droprates, gold splits>

--The Shim

Edit Reason: I was on crack, switched the death of division EXP split to reflect what really happens.

Holy Bladefire · Nov 21, 2005, 11:39 PM // 23:39

Hey Everybody I am brand new to this thread and this website, so forgive me for not using the proper lingo. In my experience with this skill I have been able to use it in pve with a minion master in my party. He kept creating them and they kept dying, once I was able to maintain skill for about 40 seconds. So yes in my experience if someone in you group is a minion master then they make you very difficult to kill.

eom · Nov 22, 2005, 01:11 AM // 01:11

well, if I ever find it, it'll be very easy to check out.

and god, would that be supercool, as I can create my own minions.

Rico Carridan · Nov 22, 2005, 03:02 AM // 03:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shimus DarkRaven

No, you have to be "In range" of the dead people for it to work. And if they're still in your party, doesn't matter everything applies <IE: Division of droprates, gold splits, and lower EXP>

--The Shim

I don't know about droprates or goldsplits, but you definitely get more xp if your allies are dead. Just tested: kill a rockshot with Claude in party - 50xp; kill rockshot with Claude dead, 100xp.

Rico

SilenceWeaver · Nov 22, 2005, 03:05 AM // 03:05

personally, i think iway is overpowered.
not necessarily in pve or lions arena but when it is composed with those dam w/r s in tombs its completely nuts and very hard to stop.
i mean with the current tombs setup, thats a minute of high health regen and maxed increased attack speed, that is cheap, recharges before it ends, can be reused, cannot be ended, and cannot be countered.
granted there are ways to disrupt the iway wars in tombs, but iway has been fotm for like 2-3 months, so obvioulsy it is not as eaasy to counter as ppl say/think, especially when the iway build is being used by a smart group.

RoF · Nov 22, 2005, 07:10 AM // 07:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zakarr

Me/W or W/Me with Illusionary Weaponry + IWAY with lots of allied dead pets around =

Although you have to do melee attacks.

If you're using IW why not just use Flurry?

Shimus DarkRaven · Nov 22, 2005, 07:12 AM // 07:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rico Carridan

I don't know about droprates or goldsplits, but you definitely get more xp if your allies are dead. Just tested: kill a rockshot with Claude in party - 50xp; kill rockshot with Claude dead, 100xp.

Rico

Yeah, now that I read what I wrote, Rico, you're right. You don't recieve any exp when you're dead on the ground, why would henchmen? Going to edit that post too. Thanks for clearing it up.

But yes, droprates/gold is still divided I believe.

--The Shim

bizarresk · Nov 22, 2005, 07:20 AM // 07:20

hmmm minions. i was farming sorrows with me as a W (with iway), ele, 2 monks, minion necro. guess what!! with some minions dead, dunno how many and NO party member dead, i tryied to activate it and it freakin worked!! WTH??? can someone explain? i had IWAY for like 30secs maybe